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okay, question about the paid fanfic thing with amazon
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Okay, this is because a.) exhaustion and b.) lack of sleep, so paranoia is probably rampant at the moment.

Amazon Worlds, earlier post about it here.

Again, my defense is paranoia:

I figured out what was bothering me as a writer about this.

Okay, assuming this takes off and paid fanfiction is a thing; would that be grounds to start C&Ding free fanfiction on the net? The thing is, right now, the original media is not in competition with free fanfic, and they also aren't losing money because there is no paid equivalent. However, with the advent of paid fanfiction--that they get money from as well--free fanfiction would be considered competition.

Anyone legal or economic or philosophically inclined have any kind of odds on it becoming worth the effort to C&D free fanfiction since it would actually be direction competition and because money theoretically is being lost for every fic that is downloaded for free from AO3?

The thing is, while the original media doesn't make money off this, neither do fanfic writers. Now they have a way to make money off fanfic, will AO3 be the textual equivalent of Pirate's Bay in the future?

Yes, paranoia. It's been a hell of a week.

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Pirate fics !

Well I'm wondering if the publishing history of 50 Shades of Gray has something to do with all of this...


Amazon Worlds is only for fan-fiction based on 'worlds' that Amazon has licensed, no? If this is the case, then there is no threat of C&D since permission has been given for fanfic based on those shows to be sold via this platform and I assume that this would mean there are royalties to be had for the production companies in question.

It really sounds as if this is more about underpaying writers of tie-in novels than about actual fanfiction.

I really think that the word 'fanfiction' is used only because it is a buzz word Amazon does not truly understand: a bit like members of the establishment who want to seem cool and 'in' use the words Facebook, twitter and Tumblr interchangeably, simply because they are all a form of social media.

Fanfiction and tie-in novels are indeed related types of fiction in the sense that they both derive from other, 'original' media.

But they differ in significant ways: no porn, no slash, no crossovers, ownership of any additional original characters reverts in toto to IP owners, not writers etc. In other words, exactly what bothers us the most about this whole Amazon Worlds deal... as well as precisely what differentiates tie-in works from fanfiction.

Paranoia is understandable, but this appears to be an attempt to short-change writers of tie-in novels instead of paying them the usual, professional rate. Which I notice was one of Scalzi's red flags too.

Edited at 2013-05-26 06:51 pm (UTC)

i am very confused. how can this whole thing stand? how can there be profit from fanfic when the fanfic writers have no permission to use the characters and universe from the original author of the books or tv shows or movies? it makes no sense. i love A03! i love the idea of freedom of creation independent of any kind of monetary compensation just for the love of the act itself...

Edited at 2013-05-27 01:06 pm (UTC)

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