Continuing adventures in authors with--um, "issues"--with fanfic (from Clarivoyant Wank).
"Fans who write non-porn stories about TV shows are a different kind of writer. If they love the shows, which are a group production to begin with, that much, what the hell, they probably don't have the taste and imagination to write anything original anyway." -
Not sure how to interpret the 'porn' bit. Completely entranced minds utterly riveted by this bit of wisdom really want to know. Because my sex scenes are kinda derivative off of like, biology. I know! No imagination. Except that one I didn't post, but you try working marsupial-esque and see what you come up with. (Unless you are
justabi, because you already did.)In case those of us who write fanfic off of textual works and not tv were feeling left out, we are processed cheese and hamburger helper.
There was also something about how it's like embroidery with patterns or something, but I lost point of the analogy, but I was getting the feeling the gist was "Look at me! I have imagination! By my definition at least." Or something.
No, seriously. She has her own definition.
Has anyone said anything new or interesting about this? Derivative arguments lack imagination. By my definition at least.
ETA: Corrected link.
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...you know, I saw a dip recipe with those ingredients once, now that I'm thinking about it.
It's probably their lack of imagination.
So since I don't have time right now to write bitchy responses to every one of them, I'm instead torrenting&seeding all their books. If they don't like their fans, they don't need the royalty cheques :P
*slinks back into her final's cave*
If they were creative then maybe they wouldn't be like, fans of her books or something? Yeah, I always get lost in these arguments, too.
I used to write gen humor for Blake's 7. Now, THAT took imagination.
I assumed needlepoint started with a pattern too, and while I'm sure a lot of craft people are also able to draw, I am not one of them.
I wonder what she'd think of that quilt that was based on my grandfather's photography? This totally lacks imagination, right? Not to mention creativity and skill.
1st Place Fabric of Our Cultures Show, TX, 2000
Best of Show, IQA, TX, 2000
Viewers Choice, AQS, KY, 2001
1st Place, San Diego Quilt Show, CA, 2001
Best of Show, Mid-Atlantic Quilt Festival XII, VA, 2001
Best of Show, 1st Place, Oklahoma City Winter Quilt Show, OK, 2002
Best of Show, Indiana Heritage Quilt Show, IN, 2002
2nd Place, Viewers Choice, Three Rivers Quilt Festival, IN, 2002
2nd Place, Viewers Choice, Three Rivers Quilt Festival, IN, 2002
2nd Place, Quilters Heritage Celebration, IL, 2002
Best of Show, Quilt Odyssey, PA, 2002
Best of Show, Quilt Odyssey, PA, 2002
2nd Place, 28th Quilt Celebration, Rockhome Gardens, IL, 2003
1st Place & Viewers Choice, Sew Near to My Heart, OH, 2003
As you can see, no one liked that quilt all that much.
Your analogies are much better. And original! *grins*
To her, this is the creative equivalent of hamburger helper.
Weird, my grandfather? Thought quilts based on his pictures were kind of amazing. But he is not a novelist breathing the rarefied air of creativity. He's just one of those professional photographers who make derivative work off of nature, you know? Hacks.
ok, should not have clicked on the link. not only did i get confused for a second, i got annoyed a lot after.
so instead i will go back to staring at this until i go back to happy
I feel the need to go stare at it until I can be sure I can see the difference. For a long time.
This latest at least had some new far fetched and illogical analogies, not the same tired rapey stuff!
I don't know--I kind of like knowing who to avoid, you know? Plus, really, is never not fun to mock them?
Just ridiculous to say that fanfic writers don't have taste and imagination. I've read many fanfic stories that were better written, had a better plot and were more brilliantly done than the so-called original stories.
It consistently boggles my mind that these professional authors whose creativity should push them to investigate and understand differing points of view (a side effect of, you know, creating believable characters!) should be so dense about fanfic. It's like they never picked up a book and loved it.
As for those ridiculous needlepoint/hamburger helper/processed cheese (the OT3 of her heart apparently), I just...I don't even know. I have this theory that most professional authors are feral fans who never learned to share with the group and this Kathryn Kerr isn't doing much to dissuade me.
Oh man, what i wouldn't give for someone to write a long essay comparing them to feral fans. *eyes wide* God knows they do it enough about us; we should return the favor.
How's THAT for a definition?
(I could make bad responses using her little entry for the rest of my life. Somehow, it never gets old.)
I can understand -- without sharing their sentiments -- those writers who are upfront about admitting that they dislike fanfic because the mere thought of fanfiction about their characters squicks them out. A squick is a squick, and there's not much to be done about it one way or the other. It's the ones who proceed from their personal squick to sweeping generalizations about fanfiction and those who write and read it, that I fail to have sympathy for.