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i do not pretend I have an attention span today
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Okay, in my defense, I was literally mostly asleep during work today and so while I read "OBAMA WINS NOBEL" it didn't really penetrate at all until I dragged myself home, despite teh fact I read all of CNN (I don't remember it. I dont actually remmber most of the day. Yes, I am literal I was mostly asleep). Seriously, somehow--I do not know how--I had a vague "Huh" and then wandered off.

So it was at five o'clock when I got home that I was vaguely staring at the TV and said "Holy shit, Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize?" Which ended with my family looking at me with patience.

I have two thoughts on this after reading--and you know, having read the guidelines for the Nobel, since Stargate Atlantis fandom really encourages you to research awards Rodney really believes he should get (if you were ever in SGA, you know this. That's why all of us came out of there with math related PTSD and have at least two websites talking about unsolvable math problems. And some of us may have modeled a certain graphing one with toothpicks and multiple colors of pens).



My first, completely irreverent and inappropriate thought, was "Holy shit, they gave a peace prize because they were just that shocked that an American president was getting along with others." Which you know, is true. It's like when the school bully abruptly helps someone pick up their books after years of knocking them out of their arms--you want to encourage this. And you know what? Totes legitimate. He might also be getting it for not starting a new war, since you know, last eight years? We've had a habit of starting those.

So if you think of it as a way for the international community to say "We are totes amazed that Americans are not starting new wars and don't look like that, remember the last eight years?" Well. I see it.

Two, theory has never been excluded from the Nobels. And I agree, his work up until now has been good, though not spectacular, and his speeches are amazing, but a part of me thinks it's also something much more instinctive. I mock theory being used in the place of practicality a lot, but there's this; it's not that he's saying anything new. It's that he's saying it and believes it and making others believe it too. And that he makes us believe we can make theory and hope into practical action. Nobels award theory; they also award effort.

Okay, and fine--anything that makes the conservatives lose their shit and drag out "antichrist" without irony works for me. My dad is a superconservative. When he winces at the rhetoric? That's like the gold standard of conservatives doing it very wrong. Though to this day, I cannot see how anyone reads Left Behind as a totes true history of the future.


In other words--I'm happy about this. I mean, I'm ecstatic about this. And also, I'm giggling inappropriately at what must have happened when the White House found out. If it wasn't at least ten minutes of "You're fucking with me" interspersed with "Seriously, who put you up to this?" I will be shocked. Most people just don't wake up, get their coffee, and find out they've won a Nobel.
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*throws confetti at you* I think this is the intellectual equivalent of backroom dealing. "YOU ARE NOW IN CHARGE OF PEACE, FIX IT."

It totally is. It's also the mother of all guilt trips.

"HEY LOOK, YOU GOT THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, GUESS YOU'RE GONNA FEEL REAL STUPID IF YOU START ANY WARS NOW HUH!"

A prof. in my grad department won a Nobel. Everyone was very giggly that day.

I would be too! I am now! *g*

From a transcript of the opening of his speech:

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Well, this is not how I expected to wake up this morning. After I received the news, Malia walked in and said, "Daddy, you won the Nobel Peace Prize, and it is Bo's birthday!" And then Sasha added, "Plus, we have a three-day weekend coming up." So it's good to have kids to keep things in perspective.

Cutest. Thing. Ever.

I think my heart just grew three sizes. Awwww, baby Obamas!

Well, from the AP:

• Myth: The prize is awarded to recognize efforts for peace, human rights and democracy only after they have proven successful.
•Fact: More often, the prize is awarded to encourage those who receive it to see the effort through, sometimes at critical moments.

I'm also quite ecstatic about this.

Thank you! I was too lazy to go look up the exact quotes.

I am going to have to admit that the first thing I thought of was "Wow, Rodney McKay's gonna be pissed". Which is not really, um, relevant.

The second was "The Nobel Prize committee doesn't care about George Bush". And the third was "Holy fuck the wingnuts will DIE".

All in all?

Obama=awesome.

All he needs now is an Oscar to match Al Gore's.

And seriously, him, not being Bush, and not being McCain or Palin? Has done more for world peace in 9 months than could ever be imagined. I mean he's even trying to stop torturing people. What's up with that?

*Falls over* This is true!

I like this response best of all, I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31nqvyBTWis

The Peace Prize has been a joke ever since they awarded it to ElBaradei a few years back, a man who never met a nuclear-weapon-seeking tyrant he didn't like. To award it to Obama for ten days in office just underlines how worthless an award it is.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I know he was nominated at approximately 10 days, but the decision was made much later in the year (in fact recently, right?) and was allowed to take into account actions after the nomination? I'm not sure I find fault with the nomination because it's just as likely that someone put it in just in case since the actual nominees won't be released for 50 years, unless he won, no one would have known for 5 decades.

...then again, didn't Arafat get one? So 6 of one, etc.

I kind of EEE'd when I found out, and then I went over to facebook and everyone was reacting pretty negatively. I know that it was pretty shocking, but it's still a huge honor and I'd just think people would be more inclined to be happy that our country is being viewed in a more positive light at last.

Cynicism is rampant sometimes. *wistful* It would be nice to see it suspended once in a while.

After I received the news, Malia walked in and said, 'Daddy, you won the Nobel Peace Prize, and it is Bo's birthday.'

And then Sasha added, 'Plus, we have a three-day weekend coming up.'

That's kind of hte best part, isn't it? I can totally see this.


I swear, my alarm went off this morning at the dot of 7 AM and I turned on the Today Show to... "Barack Obama has won the Nobel Peace Prize!"

That woke me up, needless to say.

BTW, Rachel Maddow has made the point tonight that, say Desmond Tutu got the prize ten years before apartheid was dead, and also Aung San Suu Kyi has won the prize and, well. She's still locked up in Burma. So it's definitely not like it's something that's always awarded for something major accomplished; it's apparently sometimes awarded for stuff potentially to be accomplished. Or something like that.

Stargate Atlantis fandom really encourages you to research awards Rodney really believes he should get (if you were ever in SGA, you know this. That's why all of us came out of there with math related PTSD and have at least two websites talking about unsolvable math problems.

Hey, for last year's Big Bang, telesilla and I spent a couple of hours looking at the menu for the Nobel laureate's dinner. Had to make sure that there wouldn't be any unexpected citrus!

Also, I still love the idea of the Swedish princesses fighting over who got to escort Ronon and John, and the king sitting back and looking smug because by default, he'd be escorting Teyla.

Hey, for last year's Big Bang, telesilla and I spent a couple of hours looking at the menu for the Nobel laureate's dinner. Had to make sure that there wouldn't be any unexpected citrus!

See, that makes total sense to me. I remember someone I was beta'ing looking up foods that mimicked citrus in a way that could cause allergic reactions in people with the allergy, which was news to me and I worried after if I'd ever written him eating any of those foods.

Also, I still love the idea of the Swedish princesses fighting over who got to escort Ronon and John, and the king sitting back and looking smug because by default, he'd be escorting Teyla.

Now I'm imagining Rodney lost in the palace; I visited it with my host family (host family: average height 5.6 and lower, white blonde hair, blue eyes, insanely pale, fuller body type; me: 5'10, brown hair, brown eyes, less pale than I thought, looked like a beanpole) and the reason for the descriptions? That's the only reason I didn't get lost; they could find me by the fact I towered over most of a country.

*g* The king must have felt like he won the lottery.

Theory among some friend here in Chicago is that it is the result of some sort of Nordic pissing match, and in the ever succinct words of Rahm Emanuel “Oslo beats Copenhagen”. Or, possibly even seriously, maybe they are commending the US on managing to not elect any Bushes or Bush-a-likes.

Okay, and fine--anything that makes the conservatives lose their shit and drag out "antichrist" without irony works for me.
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My reaction was basically this: 'OMGYAY!!?' --> 'Wait...what? How? Why'? --> *watching of speech by chairman of Nobel Committee/watching Obama's speech/reading up on Nobel history/reading ontd_political (mostly for the outrage)* --> 'OMGYAY!'

I think my first reaction was "huh WTF that came outta left field!" and an evil grin to see all the neocon heads go ASPLODY several times over. Quite an amusing way to spend a friday night.


I haven't been proven wrong yet. *smirks*

My first, completely irreverent and inappropriate thought, was "Holy shit, they gave a peace prize because they were just that shocked that an American president was getting along with others."
THIS.

I heard it on the radio and thought they were being sarcastic/it was a joke. My brother msgd me exactly 2 minutes later and was like "They awarded Obama the Nobel Peace Prize wtf. This sounds massively premature...". My mother, being a Giant Obama Fangirl was all \o/, Sid and I are maybe a bit more cynical about it.

That said, yeah, he has potential to do awesome stuff and I hope by the end of his term, I will definitely think he's fulfilled the potential they think he has.

Word to the SGA fandom and awards thing lol.

Ahahahahahaahaaa! I KNOW!

I had an observation by my principal today - and I have to admit that it TOTALLY blocked out the Nobel news until this afternoon, when I got home. I was floored, but the reaction at the White House must have been the funniest thing ever! *snicker*

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