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oh god, please be kidding
children of dune - leto 1
Picked this up off my flist yesterday and skimmed, but really didn't get a chance to truly take in the sheer mind-boggling....okay, I have to stop there and just link.

From Crooks and Liars (and everywhere else in the world): KS Republican Lynn Jenkins Says GOP Struggling To Find "Great White Hope" To Take On Obama

Literally, even.

U.S. Rep. Lynn Jenkins offered encouragement to conservatives at a town hall forum that the Republican Party would embrace a "great white hope" capable of thwarting the political agenda endorsed by Democrats who control Congress and President Barack Obama.

In response to inquiries by The Topeka Capital-Journal, a Jenkins spokeswoman said Wednesday the congresswoman wanted to apologize for her word choice and to emphasize she had no intention of expressing herself in an offensive manner.

Context for the phrase "great white hope".

Okay, besides everything being wrong with this, this is what is getting to me. There are times you could possibly get away with using a culturally questionable phrase out of context because it's just that damn obscure. I'm not going to claim when or how; I am just saying, I'm sure there are times, because there are a thousand monkeys typing Shakespeare and I have a prednisone headache.

However. I had no fucking clue where the phrase "great white hope" came from before wikipedia yesterday; I didn't need to. When people around me used it, it was in context with racist remarks, and weirdly, that kind of thing sticks with you later with this aura of "skanky phrase, do not use" and added auto-flinch. Continuing to claim ignorance does not excuse you; it just makes me think you have some kind of brain injury that is causing you to forget like, where you were born. And it doesn't help you were using it in reference to people on the melanin-deprived side of the rainbow, kay?

Great white hope. Really?

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My first response:


Even without a context that's one of those phrases you hear and your reaction should be 'hell no'.

Then, she's a Republican. She's probably one of those who told Americans lies about the British healthcare system. So I'm hardly surprised...

Edited at 2009-08-28 04:26 pm (UTC)

Even without a context that's one of those phrases you hear and your reaction should be 'hell no'.

This, times ten.

Then, she's a Republican. She's probably one of those who told Americans lies about the British healthcare system. So I'm hardly surprised...

I'm more surprised there aren't better excuses yet, tbh.

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it's sad she doesn't even have to try all that hard.

Yeah. I got nothing.

*still staring blankly at excuses*

Oh, but didn't you listen to the spokeswoman? SHE DIDN'T *MEAN* TO BE OFFENSIVE!


Whew. I feel better. EVERYTHING IS OKAY NOW!

(That...actually hurt me to write. I feel there might be brain bleeding.)

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I read the context. I'm trying to figure out any interpretation of that that makes it, oh, I dunno... not racist, in context. *baffled blink*

I mean, if WE said the Republicans were looking for a "great white hope" we'd be accusing them of being racists. How on EARTH is them affirming it NOT...?

Or did you mean that they were claiming it WASN'T racist out of context? Because that's just... incorrect to the point of me not even thinking that was what you were saying. (Obviously you agree with me, I'm just being baffled over here)

What the flaming fuck?

If you try to keep thinking like that, your ears will bleed. *nods knowingly*

*surreptitiously wipes ears*

I do not even have *WORDS* for that kind of asshattery.

I was mulling something in interpretive dance?

I've been boggling and boggling over this one and the boggle keeps coming back -- I mean, I've run into the same flavor of stupid repeatedly when people try to insist that they just didn't know that the phrase "jew someone down" referred to Jews. And... I'm sorry idiot people. When it's RIGHT THERE IN THE WORDS YOU USED? Not that hard to figure out, actually.

I love how you apply logic. *pets you and points* LOGIC HAS A LIBERAL BIAS YOU KNOW.

Anyone defending her needs to go choke on the irony of that particular reference.

So basically, the white society needs to win against the better, more talented black boxer? Ummmmmm.

Strom Thurmond, who never renounced segregation, has only been out of office 7 years, and that's just one example. The republican party's record isn't exactly pristine on the issue of race.

I knew the 'Great White Hope' had to do with boxing.

But really??? She said that???? About taking on Obama with a Great White Hope???

I can't believe that .... oh, wait, she's a Republican conservative. Never mind.


I saw that yesterday and facepalmed.

I'm not really culturally au fait with regard to the meaning of "great white hope", nor have I really heard it used in conversation, but I feel if you're using a racial descriptor to discuss some ideal, then, well you're probably DOING IT WRONG.

You beat me to it, I was planning a "'Great White Hope' has NO NON-RACIAL MEANINGS" post. It's implicitly, explicitly, and in all other ways racist. CONTEXT CANNOT FIX THIS, YOU REPUBLICAN ASSHAT.

God, I hate people, because I bet you dollars to donuts any MSM who cover this will take her faux-pology as if it meant something other than bupkis.

Speaking of things that Republicans do that make your head explode, have you seen this survey from the RNC?

"The most egregious question: 'It has been suggested that the government could use voter registration to determine a person's political affiliation, prompting fears that GOP voters might be discriminated against for medical treatment in a Democrat-imposed health care rationing system. Does this possibility concern you?'"

DON'T YOU KNOW THE LIBERAL MEDIA HAS TWISTED THIS? It's totally not racism because her spokeswomen says so.

*head desk*