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amazonfail - the homophobic glitch? really?
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To recap the glorious adventure of this weekend: many, many books and novels, both fiction and not, were delisted and in some cases moved from a top level search on amazon under the idea that anything GLBT is also to be considered adult, along with a sampling of general erotica.

[But not Playboy! Yes, we can still get thirty years of centerfolds for our kids! Thank God.]

Amazon Possibly Using Category Metadata to Filter Rankings at Dear Author has an explanation--with spreadsheets!--on what metadata is and how it might have been used during this "glitch".

And right. Amazon Rank in a continued quest for internetz justice via the googlebomb.

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Well, I feel all safer and protected!

Never mind that I've been an adult for over 20 years, I really want coeporate America to put the needs of neglectful parents ahead of mine...

In conclusion: Abebooks. I can recommend it highly and if everyone moves their business over to other online publishers, a few months from now we'll be able to laugh about it and wonder whatever happened to Amazon. Jeff Bezos, who's that?

ABE Books were bought by Amazon in December of 2008. I KNOW. I'd recommend Powell's, also, rydra_wong's first post on this has recs for sellers in comments.

Thanks for the information, I'll have to readjust my strategy!

How likely is the 3rd party interference theory, do you think? This filtering system seems to be pretty in-house.

The changes don't seem to have been implemented over at amazon.ca, for which I am a little bit grateful.

Still not buying anything until I hear an explanation, though. And it better be truthful. (Ha.)

How likely is the 3rd party interference theory, do you think? This filtering system seems to be pretty in-house.

I--don't know. I'm not willing to rule it out, but since this started as early as february with the deranking of GLBT authors, I'm just not seeing how it could be a glitch.

Then again, I'm actually completely stunned amazon did something this utterly and transparently wrong in the stupidest possible way, so. *helpless*

Link snagged from somebody on Twitter: http://community.livejournal.com/brutal_honesty/3168992.html

I don't know whether it's true, but it's there.

Huh. I just was IM'ed this link as well.

I wish I knew whether to believe it - not that the lovely anecdote about heroin doesn't give it that little extra ring of authenticity, of course.

It's more that some (not all) heterosexual erotica that is metadata'ed to erotica also got hit at the same time.

He could totally be trying to grab attention, though. (Admittedly the details are a nice touch. But if I learned anything on lj, it's Never trust a troll.)

I'm holding off 'til we get more info.

it would have helped if he'd mentioned he also went after anything in the erotica category at the same time, as those were delisted as well.

He's also a known troll - weev was featured in the NYT's piece from awhile ago.

Sorry but

That doesn't explain what the Amazon reps said about delisting adult books when that Craig guy asked back in February or when Mark Probst asked a few days ago...

That is a possible explanation I guess, but sort of contradicted by Amazon's previous and current reaction on the matter.

Clarification, sorry: It could be a troll grabbing for attention (thus muddling the issue further), or it could be true.

Either way, it does not endear me to the act of trolling.

Yes, it does appear that it is a troll grabbing for attention after all: http://bryant.livejournal.com/672165.html

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