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Screw with interests.

Or.

Remove basic to offer an exciting new level of account called sponsored users. Wait, you say. Isn't that plus?

Ah, no. At least, I don't think so.

Actually, I could be wrong, because I can't read code for shit yet. But as part of trying to work out classes, I started reading LJ code to get used to the patterns.

LJ Change Log, February 27, 2008.

I was looking at this:



+##
+## Returns possible domain for choosing sponsors.
+## Sponsor domain is defined for all users, not only in class 'sponsored'
+## When choosing a sponsor, domain of sponsor and user must match
+##
+sub get_sponsor_domain {
+ my $u = shift;
+ return 'sup' if LJ::SUP->is_sup_enabled($u);
+ return '6a';
+}
+
+##
+## Is user eligible for 'sponsored' account?
+##
+sub can_be_sponsored {
+ my $u = shift;
+ # all 'paid' account types - Paid, Permanent, Sponsored can not become Sponsored
+ return 0 if $u->get_cap('paid');
+ # is sponsors of user's domain enabled?
+ my $d = $u->get_sponsor_domain;
+ return 0 unless $LJ::SPONSOR_DOMAINS{$d} && $LJ::SPONSOR_DOMAINS{$d}->{enabled};
+ return 1;
+}
+
+sub sees_sponsored_in_matrix {
+ my $u = shift;
+ # is sponsors of user's domain enabled?
+ my $d = $u->get_sponsor_domain;
+ return 0 unless $LJ::SPONSOR_DOMAINS{$d} && $LJ::SPONSOR_DOMAINS{$d}->{enabled};
+ return 1;
+}
+



I thought they meant communities. Not so much, since those already exist, so why bother with this?

Sponsored Accounts FAQ (coming soon)

And google search with some fascinating insights into how to go about getting oneself a sponsor. Still haven't turned up a TOS or FAQ yet, but possibly it's not yet online.

And this weird one (shows up on several of the google pages): Sponsored accounts are cool!

Okay, I am perfectly aware I could be reading the code wrong and this is actually plus with a new name. Except I don't think so. Also kind of amused if I'm reading this right that they've been working on the removal of basic accounts since October, the same time they started adding in the sponsored code.

Feel free to correct if I'm wrong; again, I'm reading for pattern, not literally, so for all I know, they're switching names around or something. It *could* be communities, but from what I can read on the classes, this isn't the community based coding. Nor is most of the stuff from google referring to communities instead of users.

ETA: Extra links

LJ Russian Interests Removed, picked up by mecurtin (supplement to stewardess's post on interests.


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I was searching around, plus WAS sponsored at first. So if they were rooting out all the loose ends of the sponsor name, it would look different, right?

*thinks*

Not as late as February modifications though. I tracked back through the months, and plus changed names too long ago to be still called that.

Plus, they use sponsored on the list with basic, plus, paid, early adopter, and permanent.

HUH. Your ETA is interesting. It adds interesting layers to what we talked about last night. Also makes me very wary of the interests thing.

Nope, double checked. That's a--something else. I hadn't finished when I ETA'ed. It did look weird. Though creepy.

I remember talk of sponsored accounts from as far back as last summer, although I'm annoyingly unable to put fingers to details -- it's not a renaming of paid, but a way to sell dedicated names/spaces to corporations, bands, whatev. More customization for the money, the way myspace is used by the industry. And nothing that necessarily changes normal accounts (not that I wouldn't put it past 'em.)

(And the fox business is a spoof - check the comments)

I realized that while reading and spit soda I giggled so hard. I half wish I'd left it up, but htat would be cruel.

I remember talk of sponsored accounts from as far back as last summer, although I'm annoyingly unable to put fingers to details -- it's not a renaming of paid, but a way to sell dedicated names/spaces to corporations, bands, whatev. More customization for the money, the way myspace is used by the industry. And nothing that necessarily changes normal accounts (not that I wouldn't put it past 'em.)

I thought so too--I remember the stuff on bands very vaguely from strikethrough, but this seems to imply otherwise. I could be totally wrong, but again, with the way things are going, I wasn't even really surprised. How depressing.


Wow. I'm... not quite sure what to make of it. Maybe you should point this out to the folks at no_lj_ads?

If I were sure, I'd have sent it off, because false alarms at this point are way too easy. I'm pretty sure, but I just can't read the code perfectly yet. I'm hoping someone who does can read through everything and tell me if I'm right or not. Too many of the googled pages tend to fit together into a sponsored user option concept, which honestly, I can't even be surprised. I mean, plus account and sponsored communities showed us the way.

Some additional insight into the "interests" thing, maybe -- or not. All the Russian interests (except one) are off the "popular interests" list, too.

Adding to the links. Thanks! *hugs*

Re: Sponsored Communities...


Re: Sponsored Communities...

*nods* I know the sponsored communities, but the wording on this is not for communities but individual *users* being sponsored by a specific company. At least, it was in those change links, which don't entirely match the community sponsored pages.

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I know. Hence my asking if anyone could read it better than I could to see what it's actually for. From what little I read on the google links, and I read through all of them, it *looks* user option, not community option, but I'm not certain it isn't a mix of user and community. Though I'm not sure then what being able to choose a sponsor would mean in that case, or the block on that option if you are paid or permanent.

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I'm no fan of LJ's powers that be, but what seems like censorship may be the result of one of the worst search engines of any social network and has for quite some time. ANY interest word, no matter the popularity, will return no more than 400 something results and many "word+word" searches return nothing.

I've also notice the a common thing which happens when they tweak the site, aside from comment notifications crashing, is the searches and friends pages get buggy.

If I may engage in pure speculation: this problem is rooted somewhere in the sites development history. To speculate more wildly, maybe it began when 6A started making development primarily in house, although I've read rumors, which I cannot find now, Brad was not always the best manager of this issue.

I'ts not the search engine there, it's the top interest listing that's showing the discrepency, as well as the disappearance of all Russian language interests that's got people disturbed.

It's very easy, using Semagic, to cross-post to various LJ-based journal sites simultaneously. I've been cross-posting to LJ, JournalFen, InsaneJournal, and several others for a couple months now. Pretty much all the coding (except the user and community tags) translate to the other site's usage.

Of course, cross-posting is no more a perfect solution than any of the other alternatives and suggestions around - they all end up with a large portion of "watch LJ-based fandom scatter to the four winds via attrition". And, while it makes it easier for your flist to find *you*, it doesn't do much to help you find your flist. (Generic "you", of course.)

There is something that's been rumored re Brad Fitz~whatsit and one of his new projects that does give me some hope of a solution to that (you-generic finding your flist), though. Something about a new type of feed aggregator that pulls from many types of sites but displays like an LJ flist. Hopefully I don't have that wrong - I am shaky on the details due to my self-taught and semi-illiterate computer (mis)understanding, plus I haven't been following any new developments since I figure when something substantial comes down noone will be able to avoid tripping over the info.

And finally, in the unlikely but still vaguely possible - I keep hoping that SUP ends up deciding that non-Russian LJ is just too much trouble to maintain and force profits from, and they'll sell it to some beneficient LJ-addicted rich person who'll wind back time on the stupidest changes and not worry about making a profit. Unlikely but vaguely possible, right, at least partially...

*le sigh*

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