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shepherd's pie - a dish wronged

Wow.

(Link found at OTF_Wank at Journalfen)

A Flame War on Shepherd's Pie etymology.

This is possibly the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. It goes from food to education to World War II to the Revolutionary War to education to canned gravy to football to the war in Iraq. Yes. From Shepherd's Pie.

Highlights

Tony Blair - on those darned Americans messing up words!
That's a Cottage pie, shepherd's pie is made with lamb, the clue is in the name, shepherds don't herd cows do they?

Americans get so many things wrong, that doesn't mean you have to go along the wrongness, use the correct phrases and terminology and educate your people.

Stop perpetuating ignorance.




Jim - on World War II! And the Revolutionary War! And the Puritans!
Believe me, it's not for our own good. If we wanted your opinion, we would've never left your country. Instead, we left, kicked you *** out when you tried to control us, and then helped save your *** in a couple of wars (strictly for the greater good of the world, not because we actually like your wet, dank, stinky island of a country).

We like our food. We don't like yours, which is precisely why we don't serve it here. Get the point?


Ray Adams - on football!
Okay, we'll call it "USA Freedom Hamburger Shepards Pie"!!! There now, its all ours you can pull up your knickers and untwist them while your at it. Besides we let you call what ever that is you play across the pond "football" when it certainly doesn't meet our defintion of it.


And....

A Real Cook - on My Ability To Take Food Too Seriously, Let Me Show You It!
What we have learnt from this thread...

1) The etymology of "Shepherd's Pie" clearly indicates it should be made with lamb. Shepherds who herd cows are called Cowboys - most Americans should be familiar with this term - I believe someone made some movies about them once.

2) Cans of vegetables are not real vegetables - they are processed crap. Go to a market and buy real vegetables and, you know, like, peel them and chop them and stuff - it really isn't hard

3) Jars of chemicals made by Heinz are not gravy. Real gravy is incredibly simple to make

4) Adding tins of processed Cambells soup concentrate to a recipe to add flavour is madness.

5) Don't sprinkle cheese on top of the mash - this just goes gooey and stops the fluffed mash crisping up - mix the grated cheese into the mash.

6) Tater Tots are not real potatoes. Why not just pop to Mickey D's and buy a supersize fries and sprinkle them on top instead?

6) It is hard to take seriously a nation that recommends mixing "cheese soup" or "creamed chicken" into a recipe for minced beef or lamb.




Read the whole thread. It's beautiful.

Is this how non-fen feel when they read about shipper wars?

For the record:
1. Tater tot casserole? Now want.
2. Shepherd's Pie? I will call it Cottage Pie over my dead body.
3. Canned gravy? Okay, I have no defense of that one. I'm from Texas. Gravy is a food group. I have never seen it canned. So I have no idea.

ETA: Link to Wikipedia's entry on Shepherd's Pie. This is now gospel, because I agree with it.

ETA 2: Oh my God, they dragged in Scottish history.



Ray Adams - on the plight of Scotland
Your King Eddy didn't seem to draw much a difference between the soveriegn people of Scotland and your great homeland as he walked in conquered them. So why start now...I am just going with the flow man! You got them and their recipes vididiot! Aren't they a common wealth....no they are actually part of the UK right?

Or were they just adding some "common wealth" to your empire jacko?




This is awesome.
Tags: food, the smell of crazy in the morning
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