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sgareview - sateda, s3e4
john, first strike
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So this commentary idea is going over well?

I--didn't expect that. I kind of have a death touch with challenges. The less I participate, the more people seem to like them. But cool! And hey, it's big enough to set up a community for it! Happiness! Which I will do.

After I admire the stylings of SGA by way of Bruce Willis and Rambo's illegitimate love child.



Hands up--who watched this torn between "God, pretty" and "Wow, someone took the long semester on dramatic moments in television history?"

This is not a criticism. SGA has totally stepped into a new *universe* of fun, in which there is *shooting* and *violence* and I thought I could not love it better with Ronon being Rambo's even less well-adjusted younger brother, but--then. *John*.

Before anything else, I'd like to go on record with an oh my God, that was black leather. Everyone is in black. I thought they were pretty before. They are just whole new *levels* of mindblowing. Please keep these uniforms. Please please please. Please. Please. Please.

1.) I am always in favor of locking people in cages. This is in fact, something I encourage.

2.) John and Rodney touching? Never bad. Rodney managing a disgusted commentary with an arrow in his ass? Priceless.

3.) Carson and Rodney in the infirmary. Military Guy of No Name--ooh, who is he? What was his rank? He amused me. Rodney stoned out of his mind? Also amused me. Carson? Seriously, cut down on the drugs, pumpkin. While I have an AU thought of an Atlantis of everyone being druggies, let's not make that canon. At least, not yet.

SGA does have a drug thing goign on, doesn't it? Hmmm.

4.) Deep love in Ronon's PTSD. That was beautiful. It was filled with dramatic and fairly hot flashbacks, and of course he had a wife/lover he lost. God, that was good stuff. His team? Also ungodly hot.

5.) No, seriously. This is what happened. The writers all got high and marathoned Rambos I-whatever and every Bruce Willis movie *ever* and said, oh God, I have an idea. And this episode proves the writers are finally getting the good stuff and not the laundry detergent, cause man. That was *gorgeous*. Someone who is good with film etc can talk about the lighting and the slow Matrixesque and the leaping with guns and shooting and oh God, the *guns*, guh. I actually went glazed over the action sequences. That was a whole new *level* of fantastic. What the hell, Atlantis staff? Have you been holding out on us? You *have*. That was amazing.

6.) John and Caldwell. John losing his temper. That was--wow. Elizabeth backing him! The rest of the team--Rodney, Teyla, Carson--like a half-circle of wolves just *waiting*. No, they do not leave anyone behind. Caldwell, seriously, the word coup d'etat? Learn it. I get your point, but Rodney can probably remotely control your ship if he gets bored and creative and John can totally convince them all they like him better, and do you really think Hermiod likes you that much? And you will never get Lizzie-nookie if you keep that up. Just back down. No, seriously. This is the guy who flies into hive ships. These are the people who hold captive and experiment on Wraith. Over yonder is Carson with retroviruses, Teyla with the magic sticks of death, and Rodney McKay, who rewrites physics every day before coffee. Elizabeth scares the international committee. Okay? Do not fuck with these people or they will mess your shit up in epic ways.

7.) For the rest of my life, I will flash back to John at the table, trapped and appalled as he tries to--talk about his feelings.

Okay, sorry, you know John is my alpha and omega, and I need to devote some time to my hysterical horror and giggling as John stumbled blindly through a conversation explaining what most of us could have managed in ten words or less. With Teyla acting as prompter. The look on his face of constipation as he slowly tried to use fairly simple words in English to say "you all are my lobsters". It's just--no words.

Family. I just want to give him cocoa and blankets and let him talk about football for the next month so he can recover. That may be, in fact, the longest speech John has ever given, and that's including Teyla's prompts. AndI can honestly state that John talking about his feelings is not something I ever expected to see while I was still breathing.

I'd also like to state for the record: any time John looks wide eyed and earnest and totally terrifying while he states "I'd do anything for any one of you."? Yeah. I'm taking a moment to squeal into my paper bag. This was total team porn without the team even being in the *room*.

8.) You know, Rodney and Carson coming along was one of those things that didn't make sense in terms of story but did in terms of character development. John and his family speech kind of cemented what I suspected in the conference room--it didn't make that much sense in the 'what use are you, really' way, but it made total sense of the writers are trying to show that this command team is very close. And you know what? I am fantastic with that.

Extra points for Carson adn Rodney convo in the infirmary. That was--very surreal. As in it came out of nowhere? But yes! Show love for Ronon! This was a total Ronon love letter.

Triple extra points for Carson and Rodney fighting over hte gun. I'd like to point out that Carson has never showed interest in guns, shooting, or actual violence before? But this just--was too good. Awesomeness.

9.) John upping his number of kills. John, you dork. John shooting things. Guh. John holding his shot and talking himself into shooting the bad wraith of doom? Excellent.

9.) If I can calm down, more later. Because oh my God. That was *excellent*.


You know, Rodney and Carson coming along was one of those things that didn't make sense in terms of story but did in terms of character development. John and his family speech kind of cemented what I suspected in the conference room--it didn't make that much sense in the 'what use are you, really' way, but it made total sense of the writers are trying to show that this command team is very close. And you know what? I am fantastic with that.


Yes! Like the magic uniform change. There is no logical reason why but I do not care because we have the Magic Black Leather Of Hotness, Rondey in yellow-circular something boxers, and command-team gen-porn and it's like the writers decided to hit lj for a while thank god.

Magic... uniform change...? You mean the black leather that came in on the Odyssey after Cam got that great Sheppard blowjob?

For the rest of my life, I will flash back to John at the table, trapped and appalled as he tries to--talk about his feelings.

As much as I absolutely adore the rest of the episode, and as much as this episode has cemented my love for Ronon and the rest of the team forever - this is totally my favorite moment. Oh, John. And how great was Teyla, completely getting him and willing to prompt him through it? I was dying.

ROFLMA

Yes, your commentary was just as good as the ep. And the thing I remember best - John in the leather jacket. GAH!

Oh, and ditto everything you said ;-)

you all are my lobsters

Perfect! I loved this episode so much. I'm going to have to watch it again tomorrow - like a thousand times.

It was Major No Name and I want to know where Lorne was!

I love John more than ever now. When he showed up and agreed to let Ronon take out the head Wraith guy! Talking to Teyla about those horrible "feelings"! Going ballistic on Caldwell! OH JOHN!!!! ::hearts:: "I'd do anything for any one of you." I cannot love him more, I'd die. I would.

And poor Ronon! With the dead beloved and the running and the GUILT, OMG, the GUILT. He needs to be fed soup now. Along with the really good drugs (I am so okay with everyone becoming a drug addict. They can empathize with Ford then!).

My glee is legion.

It was Major No Name and I want to know where Lorne was!

I think he was over at the 4400, since I've seen him in episodes over there recently.

God, yes--it was pretty and smart and hey, plot! Character development! Actual use of the Wraith as something scary and actively malevolent. Enough evidence for John/Rodney, John/Teyla and John/Teyla/Ronon for an entire season plus excellent exploration of the entire teams' dynamics. I just--can't really ask for anything more than this. The writers definitely deserve candy this week. And probably porn.

I did feel so bad for john, he really is awkward talking about how he is..when we already knew. *smile* but now it's cannon and no one can say different.

The look on Rodney's face when he got shot was priceless...but the touching..dear god the touching, first only to their "on the floor time"

And of course, I do love the leather and the t-shirt..but I will admit, this was just so much more than that.

From Ronon's backstory to John's admitting how he is, to FAMILY BEING THE WORD OF THE DAY..I just LOVED IT ALL.

And there was Chuck..but no Lorne..but there was Rodney's boxer shorts..and John totally defying Caldwell..and you know, I've said this before, but I think the first two seasons have totally set up John into becoming so much more assertive about Atlantis and his FAMILY.

I've said he'd go to bat for all of them last week, and I'll say it again. He's just such a good freakin' guy.

I'm still too incogerent to get my thoughts down, but oh, God how I loved this.

and I think one of my favorite little things about the lobster scene with Teyla was John's indignant little, "I have friends!"

:::pets John::: Yes, baby, you do.

John Shepard can do no wrong in my book. I love him more than Miss Texas loves big hair.

Actually... they needed another pilot for the jumper, so at least one of them makes sense... and the odds of needing a doctor were pretty high so Carson might be occupied for a bit.

Now Rodney was possibly an iffy choice, but it wasnt' TOO horrible.

But otherwise, YESOMG.

SHINY.

Yes! He needs a beer and a football game stat!

Oh, there was no freaking way Rodney was staying behind, not unless Carson overdosed drugged him again. And there was no way John would have even thought of asking him to stay behind. No, no, no. A member of the family needed them. They all go. :)

For the rest of my life, I will flash back to John at the table, trapped and appalled as he tries to--talk about his feelings.

You and me both. If there ever was a 'dear god, please let the floor swallow me now' moment, that was it. John would rather hot pokers to his skin than talk about his feelings. And no wonder; he can barely articulate them to himself, let alone to someone else.

John upping his number of kills.

That so slayed me. Of course, the look for WTF on Teyla's face was the perfect accompaniment.


The look on his face of constipation as he slowly tried to use fairly simple words in English to say "you all are my lobsters". It's just--no words.

OMG. I loved that scene so much. I was just cracking up and falling a little more in love with Sheppard by the minute as it went on. He's such a giant dork. No wonder he and McKay get along so well, they both have no social skills. That's why both of these guys ended up banished to the ass ends of no where. These people are truly just the rejects that the SGC is hiding out in the Pegasus Galaxy. That's my theory of the show.

The thing about that scene is if you watch closely I think JF nearly cried during it. I don't know if John was crying because he loved these folks so much or over his inability to fully express it. Either way JF was pulling out all the stops on that scene. Gotta love the guy.


Oh my god. This episode was just LOVE. And the best part of your review (actually, I think you got the coveted "Best Review EVER" award) is this:

John and Caldwell. John losing his temper. That was--wow. Elizabeth backing him! The rest of the team--Rodney, Teyla, Carson--like a half-circle of wolves just *waiting*. No, they do not leave anyone behind. Caldwell, seriously, the word coup d'etat? Learn it. I get your point, but Rodney can probably remotely control your ship if he gets bored and creative and John can totally convince them all they like him better, and do you really think Hermiod likes you that much? And you will never get Lizzie-nookie if you keep that up. Just back down. No, seriously. This is the guy who flies into hive ships. These are the people who hold captive and experiment on Wraith. Over yonder is Carson with retroviruses, Teyla with the magic sticks of death, and Rodney McKay, who rewrites physics every day before coffee. Elizabeth scares the international committee. Okay? Do not fuck with these people or they will mess your shit up in epic ways.

Too much love right there! And then when they all left together without a backward glance? They'll let you in their play group, but you'll never belong to it. You're just on borrowed time.

*flails*

It was wonderful, it was great, this is my show of ultimiate squee!!!

And the pretty and the team and the - Rodney in black!

And my first (dorky fangirl) response to #9 was "look, John's showing off for his boyfriend". By upping his kills. Because that wasn't for Teyla's benefit, she heard his first number. That was for Rodney. *twirls happily*

And I really loved your commentary. They made me love this episode even more.

Jenn? # 6.

::shakes head:: I love the way your mind works.

The thought of them banding together to hijack the Dadelus to rescue Ronon... Yeah, they'd do it in an instant if he'd refused them.

I think this may be my new favourite episode. It was all about HOW MUCH THEY LOVE EACH OTHER :D :D :D :D

That's exactly it, yeah. I didn't expect this ep to be slashier than Irresistible, but it some ways it really is. I love their mooshy, sentimental solidarity.